Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome to the leaders notebook with Dr. Mark Rutland. Dr. Rutland is a world renowned leadership expert. He is a New York Times best selling author and he has served as the president of two universities. The Leaders Notebook is brought to you by Global Servants. For more information about Global Servants, please Visit our website, globalservants.org Here is your host, Dr. Mark Rutland.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: So what I want to try to accomplish in these seven teachings, lectures or messages is two things. One is I want to know something about the, the place this person, these seven men have in the Bible. How do they fit into the. Into the story of the Bible? Who are they and how do they fit into that? The second thing is I want to know something about them as a person.
What, what were they like? Their character, their.
Their personality. As much as we possibly can.
What we know from Scripture. Trying not to infer more than we're given in Scripture. And then the third thing is what kind of application can we make to our own lives and our own time with these seven people?
So if you have your Bibles, if you'll turn if you will, to the book of Genesis, the 12th chapter.
Genesis, the 12th chapter.
Now, the Lord had said unto Abram, get thee out of thy country and from thy kindred and from thy father's house unto a land that I will show thee. And I will make of thee a great nation. And I will bless thee and make thy name great. And thou shalt be a blessing.
And I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curseth thee.
That's a very sober passage of Scripture. To be taken lightly at one's own risk.
And in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
So Abram departed as the Lord had spoken unto him, and Lot went with him.
And Abram was 75 years old when he departed out of Haran. Let's pray together, Father, in the next few moments, I pray that your spirit will brush aside every barrier to divine communication.
Lord, as we learn from the life and witness of this patriarch and from your word, speak to our hearts, O God, in Jesus, mighty name, the strong son of God. Amen.
I believe I can make a case. Anyone I believe can make a case that really the Bible is the story of one family.
And that is the family, the broader family that springs from the patriarch Abram, who became Abraham, that he is the father of the Jewish nation, of the people, of the Jewish people, and then subsequently of the Jewish nation, Israel, and then subsequently the community of Christian faith.
Without Abraham, there are no Jews.
Without the Jews, there's no Messiah. Without the Messiah, there's none of us.
Now, here's the anomaly. Abraham himself was not a Jew.
And tell Abraham there are no Jews. There's no such thing as Jews.
He's a Mesopotamian.
He has lived his life in Mesopotamia, what is largely Iraq now, today Iraq.
So he is in a pagan culture.
We don't know anything about Abram's worship life.
We don't know anything about that.
The story begins with him 75.
And there is just suddenly this moment where God Almighty speaks to him and gives him this remarkable command, which we're coming back to in a moment.
But we don't know anything about his relationship with God. Up to that moment.
He was in a pagan culture, people worshiping false gods.
And he is in a family that is presumably of that.
His father Terah left Mesopotamia and went to Haran, which is most likely.
Nobody's quite sure which Haran it was, but most likely is in Turkey.
So when Genesis chapter 12 happens, then we are. We find ourselves in Turkey with a man named Abram.
He is married to his half sister.
And as was customary in that it's shocking to us to say that, but it was customary. In fact, the family of Terah are intermarried all the way down.
Why does God speak to Abram?
What's the catalytic moment?
It just says. It just begins. And the Lord God spoke to Abram. Why?
Why?
So maybe there is something about Abram that found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Maybe somehow or another there had been some longing in him for monotheism that transcended the pagan culture in which he lived.
Maybe they had had some kind of communion before this, some level, maybe some way in which Abram had reached out to God, unknowing God, if you are God, God if you're up there, God if you're not BAAL or Astarte or one of the false gods. We just don't know any of that.
But somehow there must have been something about Abram.
So imbound said, to whom does God speak?
The one who will listen.
So somehow or another there is something about Abram that is able to hear. God breaks through the obfuscation of the cultural climate in which he lives and speaks directly to him.
Now the second question is, what did it sound like?
Is it just me? Am I the only one? When I read things like that, God spoke to and God said to Moses, and God said, I tend to hear the voice of Charlton Heston.
And perhaps, perhaps it was audible. I don't know, you know, is there that Moment where God thunders out of the clouds of Abram.
We just don't know. That is the thing.
Maybe, and this seems to me at least as likely that it wasn't the voice of Charlton Heston. But the same way that you hear from God, that God spoke to him in the inner self of him, that somehow in all of the noise around him, that Abram was able to hear the voice of God inside him, it speaks to us about hearing from God.
That God speaks to us. A, when we listen, when we are attentive, when we are open to hear from him. Secondly, that he may or may not speak miraculously. He may not be in a thunderbolt or a flash of lightning or a baritone voice, or it may be that still small voice within that speaks to us.
Then we come to what does he say?
What does God say to Abram to kick off the whole story of the family that is the rest of the story of the Bible? He says, leave Haran. Leave where you are. Leave your father, leave your family. In fact, he's very specific. He doesn't just say, leave Haran. He says, leave your whole family.
Leave everybody, get up, take your own family. Sarai and his people. He has no children at this point, and his nephew Lot goes with him and leave and go where? I show you.
That probably doesn't challenge anybody here, but you've got to hear what. You got to hear what that is saying.
Get up, leave everything you know, leave your kith and kin, pack the camels, load up and head out. He doesn't even tell him which direction.
He doesn't say, head south.
He doesn't say anything that I will show you. I envision two things.
The first is his relationship with Sarai.
We're leaving.
Pack everything, load up, we're heading out.
Where husband, you know, as. When it comes to that, I don't.
Can you imagine that?
The second thing I envision is this.
The next morning, they're all loaded up, the boxes are on the camels, the U Haul trailers hitched up to the back of the camels, everything.
And Abram mounts on his camel and says, okay, Lord, now would be a good moment that.
That song that we just sang through.
Brother, Let us in.
To trust God, to trust what he says, to trust him, to speak, to trust his word, to trust his direction and then obey.
It just isn't always that easy.
And sometimes God can call us out right onto the precipice where it just doesn't make any sense.
And that's where the whole issue of Obedient faith becomes that step into the next phase of God's relationship with us.
Then there is this other thing, not only his obedience, but there is embedded in this, the leadership in the story of Abram, his leadership.
So there is not only his obedience of God, but there are a lot of people in this story. There's shepherds that work for him and staff and people and wife and his nephew and his family. And all the. All these people, they have not heard from God.
None of them have heard from God.
They only somehow or another believe that Abram has heard from God.
So there is something. When we talk about the. The person of Abram, the character of Abram, there is something in him which must inspire great confidence in those around him. It's not simp. He's not a king.
He's. He's a.
At the best, a sort of a desert chieftain, but really he's the patriarch of a fairly small family.
And there is something about this guy that when he says mount up, that they just mount up. Later on in the story, I'll give you an example. We'll try to come to it if we have time. And that is the rescue of Lot. When Lot is captured in Sodom and carried away, then he mounts up his own shepherds as a sort of an ad hoc militia and leads them off to rescue him. So they. These. This is a guy that people want to follow. They want to obey, they want to do what he says. And they have confidence somehow in his ability either to lead them in his own resources or. Or perhaps he has said to them, I've heard from God, but somehow he has their.
Their confidence. So he is a leader.
He is a person who listens to God.
He is a person who is. Not only listens, but he obeys. And he obeys will come again to another moment later on where he obeys instantly. He doesn't try to do a deal with God. He doesn't say, look, I'm 75. What about on my 80th birthday? Could we do let's celebrate my birthday with this trip to Never Never Land?
How. How about that? He just packs up and leaves.
So we know that he is a man of faith.
He is a man who hears and obeys the voice of God. And he is a man that commands some kind of respect. His leadership capacity is inherent within himself.
Now, let's talk about a couple of areas in his life where we find a positive aspect of his character.
So when he and Lot leave Haran and head down to what is the Place that God shows them. Haaretz, the land, in Hebrew, the land.
So now they say Haaretz Israel, the land of Israel. But Haaretz is the land.
It is promised to Abraham and to his descendants forever.
And the land is all he knows. Now.
It is also called largely part, mostly Canaan.
Don't confuse Canaan and Cana. Cana is a village. That's where Jesus worked his first miracle. Cana and in Galilee. But this is Canaan, or as you would say in Hebrew, Canaan.
But Canaan, it is an occupied land. It's not. Everybody's not waiting.
Wow, the Jews have finally arrived. This is great.
It is an occupied land. There are people that live there.
And he moves in with his flocks and his herds and his nephew and all his flocks and herds. And they begin to overburden the land.
They just simply don't have the resources in terms of grass and water and all those things to sustain these massive herds. God is prospering, Abram, and prospering Lot. It's their burden on the land is actually their prosperity.
And so Abram says to Lot, look, instead of us fighting and their shepherds are fighting each other, you know, they get to one creek and they want to go first and they don't, and they're back and forth. So he says, choose anyway. You want to go north, I'll go south. You want to go south, I'll go north. You want to go east, I'll go west. Just choose. Now look what that tells us about Abram. He's in charge here.
Lot is his nephew and really his junior partner.
He's not equal to Abram. There is no reason that Abram should have done it this way.
This is revelational about the character of Abram, that he is gracious in his leadership rather than being some kind of a narcissistic bully.
He says, you choose first. Go anywhere you want to.
Now Lot as we know and come back to it. Lot goes to the south, into the well watered plains of the south at that time.
Well watered plains in the south.
Let me just say to you, Travis and I have been. Travis and I have been down to the area of Sodom and Gomorrah many times. It is like not a well watered plain.
It was at that time. But let me just say something. When God bombs something, you don't want to be there.
And that, that south area, the Araba in the south, is now a desert, but at that time a well watered plain. And, and there are major cities down there. Two major cities, Sodom and Gomorrah, of which you are fully aware.
Lot goes there, and God's hand of prosperity seems to be upon these two guys. And Lot prospers in Sodom. We have no indication that he gets involved in the wickedness of Sodom, but he becomes something of a judge. He is something of a leader. And he's there and he's fine. And. And God. And Abram leaves him. And that's fine. Abram goes on with his. With his way.
That's when the issue, the central issue of the promise that God gave him. I'm not only going to give you this land, I'm going to make of you a great nation.
Now, that is to a childless man in his late 70s whose wife is also at least in his age category.
So there has to be this thing in Abram that says, lord, if we're going to have a great nation, could we start with, like, one?
How about. How about a child? Could we just have a child?
And so the promise is inherent in the word that he hears from God. I'm going to make a great nation of you.
But it just doesn't happen.
It isn't happening. It just.
It just. They just wait and wait and wait.
Now, at this point, two. Two, quote, unquote men, two guys show up. They are obviously pretty obvious. The angels, they show up at Abram's camp and they say, we're heading down to Sodom and Gomorrah. The wickedness of it has come up before God and we're going to obliterate it.
And Abram begins to do a deal with God. It's. It's fascinating.
He says, you wouldn't blow the whole city up if there was a hundred righteous people and said, no, okay, a hundred. I won't. Okay, okay, what about 50?
And Abram takes him down, down, down. Finally, 10.
And the angels leave to go down to Sodom and to deal with Lot.
I'm going to. I want to jump to the end of Lot's story, but we're going to. I'm going to come back to Lot.
Lot ends in a disaster beyond an unspeakable disaster.
So these angels come to bring Lot out of Sodom, and the men of Sodom intend to sexually molest them.
Come. Contemporary and liberal Bible scholars want to make it sound that the sin. I have read that they say the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality. It was a lack of hospitality.
The only.
The only problem with that is that it's a lie. But apart from that, it's a very good theory.
It is an out and out theory and an out and out calculated lie on the truth of scripture.
Sodom was riddled with homosexuality. And the men of Sodom are going to homosexually rape these two angels and Lot.
This will show you what living in a compromised culture can do to your brain.
Lot says, okay, don't do this, don't do this. There. These are strangers under my roof and don't do this. But he says, I have two daughters and they're virgins. I'll put them out in the street and you do what you want to with them.
And the angels say, we're not going to do this. And they strike the men of Sodom blind and they tell Lot, let's get out of here. We're going to destroy this city. Get your family.
So he takes his wife and his daughters, his sons in law. The Bible says it sounds to them like he's joking.
They just can't hear it. And so they don't go. And you know, Lot's wife looks behind him, behind her and turns to a pillar of salt and all that. That's inconsequential, really.
Lot then says, I don't want to go into the mountains.
I've lived in a city. I don't want to live in the mountains. He says, there's a small city nearby, Zoar. It means small.
Let me leave Sodom, but let me just go to Zoar.
And that's a very important point in the story of Lot, that he says, okay, I don't want the big. I don't want the big bad place.
I just want a little bad place.
And that, that is the, that is the characteristic of the downward decline of compromise with the surrounding culture. I'm not going to do this horrible stuff, but I'm going to do this little stuff.
So it goes to Zoar and then from Zoar into the mountains.
And there, because they are childless, his daughters get him drunk and have sex with him and he impregnates both his daughters.
It's an absolute catastrophe of a life.
And that is the tragedy of lots of. And we'll leave him there.
Now Abram hears from God, this child is coming and you're going to have a child.
But he just, he just can't.
This is the man who has heard from God to leave Haran and go out not knowing. This is the man who has trusted and obeyed. This is a man of great faith. But in this one point he buckles.
And his wife says, let's Force the hand of God.
God's not actually going to do it for us, so let's take it into our own hands. I have an Egyptian maid, a slave, maybe a slave girl or servant. I have an Egyptian go in unto her and get her pregnant, and we'll claim her baby as ours.
And Hagar Abram agrees. And Hagar gets pregnant.
And it was a disaster of a plan to start with in the first place.
The.
There just isn't any way around the fact that she is inviting her. Yes, it's a.
It's a culture where polygamy is accepted. More than one wife and concubines and all the rest. Yes, that's all true, but there isn't any way around the fact that she's inviting her husband to commit adultery with her maid.
And he does, and he impregnates her.
And then we have the envy and the strife and the bitterness, all the politics.
Travis and I have traveled around West Africa, and I can tell you that polygamous households in West Africa, they. They are political nightmares. Wife against wife, son against son, all. It's. It's a nightmare. And it happens in this household.
And the wife and the concubine are at each other's throats.
The little boy is there, but he's not the child of promise.
And it's just a nightmare.
That child, Ishmael, is the father of the other half.
So Abram comes from the family of Shem.
So the three sons of Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth, Abram comes from the family of Shem.
Those people are called Shemitic or Semitic.
So the other half of the Semitic peoples spring from Ishmael, the Arab peoples, through Ishmael to Muhammad, through Muhammad to Islam.
So Abram, it forks at Abram, Abram to the Jews, Ishmael to the other branch of the Semitic peoples.
That. That mistake actually is at the root of geopolitical violence to this day.
To this day.
You want to hear one great lesson from the life of Abram? It's this.
Wait, I say wait on the Lord.
You can push it through, force it through, make it happen.
You think you can force the hand of God, and you try to make it with your. With your own plan. You may give birth to an Ishmael that you will regret and other people will regret forever.
So finally, it's untenable.
And Abram and Sarai drive the woman out, and Hagar leaves with Ishmael.
It's just. So you read these stories in the Bible and you just say, wow, Are these really wonderful people.
What they are is people.
Abram is a giant. He's a patriarch. He is someone from whom we learn great lessons.
But some of those lessons are negative.
And this is one of those.
Now back to Lot.
Lot is at Sodom. Remember this. Before the angels come and the Amalekites raid Sodom and capture. Burn it down and capture Lot and take off. When Abram hears about it, his deadbeat nephew, who's compromised living in Sodom, all the rest of it, he doesn't say, not my problem.
There's that temptation, isn't it, when somebody just has disappointed you, done the wrong thing, made stupid decisions, separated from you, fine, wash your hands. Instead, he mounts up his people.
They form a militia, they chase them down, they kill them all, rescue everything, all the people from Sodom.
And Lot is rescued.
Now, this is very, very important right here in this little moment.
I wanted to, you know how Lot. You know how Lot ends. I've gone there, but now we're in the middle of the story.
The king of Sodom says to Abram, you take everything you want and just give me the people and I'll take the population back to Sodom.
And Abram says, I don't want a shoelace.
I don't want a shoelace from you.
He says, I don't want anybody ever to say, the king of Sodom profited me one bit. I want nothing from you. No one and nothing.
And he goes out into the field and there he is, met by this mysterious person.
Is really one of the mysteries of the Bible.
Melchizedek his only here and then in psalms and then in Hebrew.
It is apparently a prefigurement of the line of Christ, the priesthood of Christ.
And Melchizedek meets with Abram, and Abram tithes to him.
Hebrews makes a big point of that, that the lesser tithes to the greater.
That Melchizedek is greater than Abram.
And then Melchizedek basically serves him communion.
So it. It is a look ahead that through the line of Abram, through all of the.
All of the celebrations and Passover meals and seder dinners and all the rest of it, through the. That there is this.
All the priests, all the sacrifices, all the. All the blood of the tens of millions of goats that are killed and slaughtered, there is this mystery of Melchizedek which is not going to show up again.
It's hinted at in the book of Psalms, but what does it even mean in Psalms until in the book of Hebrews, it makes it plain to us, that Melchizedek that met with Abram in the plain outside of the rescue of Lot, that same Melchizedek is a priest without priesthood, without a beginning, without an end. And he says Jesus is of the priesthood of. Of Melchizedek, beginning, ending. And that he is inside worshiping, inside interceding for us that we have an high priest after the order of Melchizedek.
But this revelation in the book of Hebrews, I just want you to hear this is shown in a mystery to one man thousands of years earlier.
This figure, Melchizedek. We don't know where he came from, where he was born, anything about his life, anything about his death. He just shows up.
Abram tithes to him, and he serves him communion and he disappears until one little brief appearance in the book of Psalms and then in the book of Hebrews.
The book of Genesis has in it so many mystery elements that. That speak ahead to Jesus.
And there are many of these in the life of Abram.
Now, just two more quick things. We're just moving toward wrapping it up, but stay with me.
So now Abram is still childless.
Lot's gone, Hagar's gone, Ishmael is gone.
Now he's still childless. What about this covenant?
What about this?
So here is this second great mystery.
God reveals to Abram in a vision the character and nature of the covenantal relationship between God and his people.
That God calls Abram into a covenant of sacrifice. To slaughter an animal, lay it open, and then a fire pot appears in the sky and moves through this sacrifice, signifying to Abram that he is in covenant with him. That God and Abram have struck covenant in the. There in the desert.
And he says to Abram, go stand on a beach and count the sand.
That's your descendants.
Still no baby.
But the covenant of faith with God.
And God says, I'm going to give you a great nation.
That covenant is there. It's struck. Abram receives it. He has it. It's his.
Abram is a hero. He's a giant. He's a man of faith. He's a man of great discipline. He's a man of tremendous ability to hear from God. He is a man of leadership. People trust him and admire him.
He's almost perfect.
But like not so Abram, Abraham takes his wife and goes to Egypt.
And he says to his wife, who is his half sister, remember, he says, you're beautiful. Now, I don't know who the ages of these people are. And I don't know how Sarah looked at 78, I'm just quoting the Bible.
So he says, tell everybody that you're my sister, because these Egyptians, they'll kill me and take you.
And the Pharaoh sees her and takes her into his. He never sleeps with her, takes her into his house. Harim.
And you just want to say, is this the man of faith and courage and authority and leadership who's willing to let an Egyptian king have his wife because he's afraid?
Not only does Abram do it, he does it twice.
He does it twice.
So you just.
You just have to deal with this reality that the people in the Bible are real people.
And Abram was real.
He's a pagan man who moves out of the paganism of his culture into a monotheistic revelation of God Almighty that no one before him has ever seen. Who enters into covenant relationship with God in a mystery vision. Who is used dramatically in a military rescue that is powerful and sacrificial. Who walks in covenantal relationship with God and through whom God brings the Jewish people and all of Christianity and the coming of Messiah. And he is a man with flaws.
That's.
Don't you ever just wish that you could say to God, we want people that don't look like us.
We don't want to have to face the fact that we also have flaws.
We walk with God. We. We live in covenant relationship with Him. We are. We are his people. He loves us. We love him.
But everybody in this world's got clay feet, and we gotta get our minds around that. It's not an excuse to live in sin. I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about is coming into the reality that great leadership and great faith and great authority and great character don't necessarily mean that you won't ever have challenges morally.
There are things that can happen.
And there are three major lapses in. In Abram's life. Hagar.
And twice allowing another man to have his wife because he's afraid.
Those are three major lapses in his life.
Now the baby comes.
Itzhak.
Isaac.
Think of the rejoicing.
Think of this. He's an old man.
His elderly wife conceives and has this baby. The rejoicing. Everything is great.
Surely, surely life is going to. He's going to cruise to the finish line.
This is the end of everything. Thank God. It's all done. We got the baby. I'm old guy.
I just have a little final dash to the finish line. I'll be in heaven with God.
And no more challenges, no more problems, no more Struggles. No more tests. I've passed the great tests.
And God says, no, no, those were little tests.
Those are just teeny tests.
Now we're going to find out whether you love me.
Listen to this passage. And God said unto Abraham, take now thy son. God never makes it easy. He makes it clear. But he didn't make it easy.
Take now thy son, thine only son whom thou lovest.
And take him into the mountain that I will show you. Does that sound familiar?
Go into the land that I will show you. Go into the mountain that I will show you.
And offer him there for a sacrifice.
He's waited his whole life for the promise of this child to come. And he finally has him.
And God says, sacrifice him.
And like he did in Haran, it says he got up early the next morning and left.
He didn't try to do a deal.
Abram has gone through his successes and his failures. And now, in his old age, he comes to the final great test of his life.
And he obeys God instantly, without complaint.
He mounts up, takes his servant, the boy.
He's not a baby. He's old enough to carry a load of wood, which he does later in the story. And they go to this mountain, and Abram says, abraham, by this time says to his servant, wait here.
I and the lad will go on to that mountain and sacrifice and come again.
We will go and sacrifice and come again.
Just remember that. Then we're going to come to Hebrews. But hold that verse.
So he takes the lead and fire in a container, and his knife is in his belt.
And Yitzhak says, I see the fire, I see the knife, I see the wood.
Where are we? Where are we going to get a lamb?
And listen to Abram's answer.
The Lord will supply himself, supply a sacrifice.
Now, listen to the. Listen to the order of the words. He doesn't say, the Lord himself will supply a sacrifice.
He says, the Lord will supply himself a sacrifice.
So he ties the boy's hands.
I gotta say, you gotta admire Isaac in this story.
I mean, the hero in this story is the guy that says, okay, I trust you, dad. It's a little creepy, but.
And he ties Isaac's hands, lays him on the wood and raises the knife.
And I heard a preacher say this, and I disagree with it very vehemently.
He said Abram knew that God would stop him.
I don't believe that for a minute.
Because remember, I said, remember the Book of Hebrews? The Book of Hebrews says Abram believed God, that he would raise Isaac from The dead that he had such faith. Now he's come through all this journey, all this adventure, all his failures, all his sins, all his stupid stuff, all his great stuff, all his victories, all this life. And he's finally come to this one great final test in his really old age.
And he passes it with flying colors. He believes not only for God to. He not only believes, he's heard from God, he's going to obey God and obey him without question. But he's so confident in who God is that if he kills Isaac, that God will raise him the dead. He is operating in New Testament resurrection faith. Thousands of years before Messiah is born.
Abraham Hebrews quotes that now he raises the knife and the voice from heaven says, abraham, stop.
I never would command human sacrifice and I don't want that.
Stop.
And it says, abram looks behind him and they're caught by his horns in a thicket is a ram.
The God supplied sacrifice by God Almighty in covenant relationship with an obedient, covenantal people.
What a mighty God we serve.
I just keep going back to this thing. Here's this guy, this probably Sumerian guy in.
In Turkey.
And God says, I'm going to show you a land.
Pack up everything and go.
And he go. He just obeys. He just loads up and goes.
And he has his ups and his downs and his failings.
If you've lived an entirely sinless and perfect life, just stand and let us touch the hem of your garment.
But if you're like the rest of us, every time you go up, the tests get bigger.
The tests don't get lighter, the tests get bigger until they come to the final test.
What is our final test?
That is this.
When we are staring death in the face, are we able to say with Abram, I believe in the God of resurrection who has supplied himself sacrifice and that he will raise me in that day.
That's the message of Abram of the Magnificent Seven.
This guy has got to be number one.
Let's pray.
Heavenly Father, thank you so much for the life of this patriarch and for the lesson that we learned from him to trust you and to obey you.
We believe you for it. We thank you for it. In the powerful, sweet holy name Jesus, the strong Son of God, our sacrificial Savior, our deliverer and the resurrection from the dead.
In Jesus name, Amen.
Next week the youth will be joining us. And the next second in the Magnificent Seven will be Joseph.
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